Tag: Giovanni

Why was Giovanni and Ariana’s marriage so toxic? Was it an arranged marriage or something? Were they ever happy together?

(Update this is like 850 words long putting most of it under a cut I’m so sorry I do not know restraint.)

Long story short, it’s complicated, but basically the only time they were truly happy together was before they married, and were simply best friends. The marriage is what ruined their relationship.

Ariana was childhood friends with Giovanni and his twin brother Giorgio, thanks to their parents all being the leaders of allied crime syndicates. While there was never a formal arrangement, there was always a loose understanding that it was likely Ariana would marry one of the brothers when they were older, to solidify the ties between their families. Ariana knew this and was perfectly fine with it, since she had quite the crush on Giovanni. Giovanni in turn had no real romantic feelings for his childhood friend, while Giorgio did, but Ariana had no interest in the younger twin. When Giovanni announced that, with his mother’s blessing, he was traveling to Kanto to form a new branch of Team Rocket, Ariana asked him to marry her. He accepted, figuring it would happen to him or Giorgio either way, and even if he had no real feelings for her, they say you should marry your best friend, so it should be fine.

It was not fine.

The newlyweds found themselves quickly spiraling into endless arguments, disagreeing on small matters of how to run Team Rocket to what their relationship was – Giovanni assumed that they were just married for the sake of appearances and alliance and it’d be fine to pursue other attachments outside each other, while Ariana was furious at the idea of her new husband already planning to find other lovers so soon after marriage. She loved him, why couldn’t he see that and love her back exclusively with his whole heart? Ariana becoming pregnant about a year later didn’t help matters, as they disagreed on the topic of children as well. Ariana hoped raising their child together would finally make Giovanni fall for her, already planning ways to use the baby to win him over, while Giovanni was dreading the prospect of becoming a father, having little interest in children but knowing it was expected of him. It was during this time that he began his affair with one of his underlings, Delia, dating her in secret even after the birth of his daughter, Marcella.

Despite Ariana’s best efforts, Giovanni never bonded much with Marcella. He spent time with her and did his part to take care of her, but she could tell his heart wasn’t truly in it. When Delia announced her resignation from the team unexpectedly and Giovanni grew upset and moody afterwards, Ariana grew suspicious and after a little digging, was able to uncover evidence of the affair. She was furious at her husband, but not particularly surprised, so decided to get revenge. She knew that Giorgio had held a torch for her for ages, so it wasn’t too difficult for her to seduce him, giving Giovanni a taste of his own medicine (and Giorgio a surprise son to raise on his own once she was done with him). It worked, Giovanni baffled why his own twin brother would go behind his back with his wife. Even if he wasn’t in love with Ariana, it still rubbed him the wrong way, and he’s never been able to quite look at his red-eyed nephew without a trace of annoyance.

After this incidence, the two realized things were quickly heading into irreparable territory, and if they wanted to be able to run Team Rocket together, let alone raise Marcella, they needed to come to some kind of agreement. For the next couple years, they had a tenuous peace, both making concessions for the other and trying to focus on productivity over arguing. This lasted, not without plenty of smaller fights, until around when they were expecting their second child. While Giovanni still hadn’t really warmed up to the concept of fatherhood, he had grown more comfortable spending time with a now 4 year old Marcella, and both he and Ariana were hoping a second child would help continue to smooth things over. Spoiler alert it didn’t.

When Silvio was born, Giovanni felt instantly attached to him in a way he hadn’t with his daughter. Perhaps it was due to being in a better mindset about parenting, or just something unknowable, but his fondness for his son was obvious. Ariana was delighted seeing her husband showing more interest in parenting since this could be the first step to him showing more interest in her too, but this instead seemed to come at the cost of their relationship. A second child added more stress to the already on-a-thread peace they had and more arguments and petty fights broke out than ever. Before long, they could barely be in the same room and things never really recovered from that point.

The two never formally divorce, but they essentially are and while Ariana still holds feelings for her husband, they’re mostly overshadowed by bitterness. Giovanni continued to ignore his crumbling marriage with a string of affairs, and their children grew up fully aware of their parents’ broken relationship, both leaving home and mostly cutting contact as soon as they were old enough to. And that’s the current state of things when the events of the game plots kick off!

Rank order how legit (as in how likely they would be to happen in your canon) all boss/subordinate ships (for evil teams)

That’s a lot of ships Syd! But I’ll do it for you~

Giovanni/Archer (SubordinateShipping – These two probably had the best relationship out of all the boss/subordinate ships. They were just fwb even if Archer had romantic feelings, but they respected each other and remain on good terms.)

Giovanni/Ariana (SilverSpawnShipping – The only reason this is so high up is because they were married. It was not a healthy relationship though and it was a very bitter and spiteful marriage overall.)

Lysandre/Bryony (RiskShipping – They were not romantically involved and only hooked up a few times, but Lysandre never treated Bryony poorly and had he not died, he would have supported her and their son.)

Archie/Shelly (ShiverMeTimbersShipping – They probably could have dated under different circumstances, being close childhood friends.)

Guzma/Plumeria (SkullShipping – Same with Archie and Shelly, the could have easily dated under different circumstances.)

Archie/Matt (SailorShipping – Less likely than Archie/Shelly, but perhaps could have happened.)
   
Cyrus/Jupiter (TBHShipping – They do hook up but it’s just Cyrus indulging Jupiter hence why it’s not higher on the list.) 

Cyrus/Saturn (GingaShipping – Perhaps if Saturn had been bolder, he too could have taken the same opportunity Jupiter did.)

Maxie/Courtney (AuthorityShipping – Courtney had some feelings for her boss, but never confessed them, nor did she ever expect Maxie to return them.)
   
Lysandre/Aliana (TriumphShipping – If Aliana had wanted to, they could have hooked up probably, but there weren’t any romantic feelings.)

Lysandre/Celosia (SuccessShipping – Same deal as with Aliana.)

Giovanni/Petrel (MusicalTheaterShipping – Same deal as with the above two.)

Giovanni/Mable (RedMapleShipping – Lysandre wasn’t really Mable’s type hence why she’s lower down on the list.)

Cyrus/Mars (BetelgeuseShipping – Mars only had a celebrity crush on Cyrus and never seriously considered her feelings to be real. She admires him, but that’s about it.)

Giovanni/Proton (DarkDesireShipping – Proton may have found his boss attractive, but he knew his brother Archer was the boss’ favorite so he wouldn’t interfere. He also would have been a teenager any time a relationship between him and Giovanni could have happened and Giovanni isn’t about that.)

Maxie/Tabitha (LeadershipShipping – I don’t headcanon Tabitha to have any romantic feelings for Maxie so…)

Lusamine/Wicke (HeavenlyShipping – Lusamine is too focused on finding her husband to bother with outside relationship.)

Lusamine/Faba (No Ship Name – Same as above.)

Lysandre/Xerosic (DoomsdayShipping – No attraction here, Xerosic has no interest in relationships while he’s focusing on getting back home.)

Cyrus/Charon (GlobalShipping – No attraction here either.)

Ghetsis/Literally Anyone (I headcanon him as ace/aro so he’s the least likely of anyone to end up in a relationship.)

Gabriele Campanula

I continue to have zero self control and those ship asks were actually evil because they made me think about pairings and dynamics I hadn’t developed previously and then that somehow turned into Giovanni and Archer having a kid? What?

Lordy. So here’s the story. I started thinking about SubordinateShipping more and more and while I never though Giovanni would reciprocate Archer’s feelings since his heart belongs to Angelo, it’s not like he’s happy with Ariana and any chance to irritate her is one he wants to take, so what I can see is Giovanni and Archer being friends-with-benefits. Then of course because I have an addiction, my acknowledging a ship is canon immediately evolved into me thinking about how I could get a fankid out of this (sigh). Long story short, towards the end of the Gen 1 timeline the fwb relationship bears fruit and Gio realizes he’s going to have a kid. Now, on the one hand, he already has two that are both over ten years old at this point and he’s not in any place to have another kid now, but on the other hand, it would really piss off his wife. He decides he was looking for an excuse to ditch TR for a while now and track down Angelo anyways so this is as good as any. He can’t really bring his 11 year old son with him for this (and his 14 year old daughter ran away from home a year ago), so he does his usual ‘sort of means well but ultimately not very helpful’ parenting technique to try and get Silvio to have interest in reforming or at least fully disbanding Team Rocket. This results in his son deciding he hates both his parents now since his dad is leaving him but hey, it all works out in the end. Gabriele Campanula is born not long after Giovanni and Angelo settle down into their new home of Castelia in Unova. Over time, the rest of the family does find out and he does tell Archer about his son (he’s not Draco lol). Still working out fully what Marcella and Silvio’s relationship with their little half-brother is, but Gabe is officially part of the Café Crew and it’s most senior member, acting as a mentor to his nephew Renato in the future (and also being Cicely’s wingman lol). 

TLDR: Does this fankid need to exist? No. Do I love him after knowing him for less than an hour anyways? Yes. He’s also another ‘annoying relative’ for his cousin Atlas to interact with and will probably be the person who mainly helps Renato through his own issues so he does have a purpose, even if a minor one. Not to mention… I always liked those fanfics where Silver had half-siblings (though in those it was usually Ash or Red.)

All the Evil Team leaders for the ship thing! (since I’ve always felt about half of them are difficult to ship)

You’re right, they are hard to ship, so apologies if this is a bit shorter than the other asks I’ve done. 

Giovanni
– My NOTP for them
Not the hugest fan of Gio/Cyrus (AbsoluteControlShipping) but that’s more to do with me not shipping Cyrus with anyone.  
– My BROTP for them
This one is weird but I like the idea of him and Nanu knowing each other/being friends?
– My OTP for them
Giovanni/Angelo aka my crack pairing of Gio and Lyra’s dad whoop. They’re childhood friends in the fankid AU and are each other’s one true love~
– My second choice pairing for them
No one.
– My fluffy pairing for them
Gio/Angelo.
– My angsty pairing for them
Giovanni/Ariana (SilverSpawnShipping) since they were an unhealthy relationship in mine. Otherwise, unrequited Archer/Giovanni (SubordinateShipping).
– My favorite poly ship for them
None.
– My weirdest pairing for them
Gio/Angelo, by virtue of it being an OC/canon pairing.

Maxie
– My NOTP for them
None.  
– My BROTP for them
Maxie/Courtney. 
– My OTP for them
Maxie/Archie (HardenShipping).  
– My second choice pairing for them
None. If it’s not Archie it’s not anyone.
– My fluffy pairing for them
Maxie/Archie.
– My angsty pairing for them
Maxie/Archie, it’s my only ship for him so it gets all the fluff and all the angst and everything.
– My favorite poly ship for them
None.
– My weirdest pairing for them
None. Maxie/Archie is mainstream.

Archie
– My NOTP for them
None.  
– My BROTP for them
Archie/Matt. BROS.
– My OTP for them
Archie/Maxie.  
– My second choice pairing for them
Archie/Shelly (ShiverMeTimbersShipping)
– My fluffy pairing for them
Archie/Shelly is probably fluffier than HardenShipping tbh.
– My angsty pairing for them
Archie/Maxie, especially if it’s a love/hate type thing.
– My favorite poly ship for them
Maybe something like Archie/Shelly/Matt (AquadanShipping)?
– My weirdest pairing for them

None, really. I only ship him with Maxie or Shelly and both I think are fairly mainstream for him.

Cyrus (I hc him as aromatic so ….. this will be brief).
– My NOTP for them
None. (Excluding obligatory ‘they’re related in my headcanon’ squick ships Cyrus/Johanna and Cyrus/Dawn (AkatsukiShipping).)
– My BROTP for them
I think under different circumstances he and Cynthia could have become good friends.
– My OTP for them
None. I don’t ship Cyrus with anyone.
– My second choice pairing for them
None.
– My fluffy pairing for them
Cyrus/Happiness.
– My angsty pairing for them
Cyrus/the Void. (But more seriously, unrequited Cyrus and any of his admins, especially Saturn.)
– My favorite poly ship for them
None.
– My weirdest pairing for them

None. (wow this was easy round)

Ghetsis (I also hc him as ace/aro so this will be brief yet again.)
– My NOTP for them  
Since he’s not interested in relationships in my hc….. kind of anyone?
– My BROTP for them
Does he even have friends. Maybe once upon a time he had a bro. Or some of the more fanatical sages.
– My OTP for them
None.
– My second choice pairing for them
None.
– My fluffy pairing for them
None.
– My angsty pairing for them
I guess any scenario where he’s forced to be in a relationship since he would hate that but don’t we want him to suffer.
– My favorite poly ship for them
None.
– My weirdest pairing for them
No ships for the nasty man.

Lysandre
– My NOTP for them
None, really.  
– My BROTP for them
I hc him as having been a father figure to Alain and Calem, so them I guess, but hopefully in a happier world where he didn’t try and kill everyone. 
– My OTP for them
Lysandre/Augustine (PerfectWorldShipping).
– My second choice pairing for them
Lysandre/Malva (BeautifulWorldShipping)
– My fluffy pairing for them
Lysandre/Augustine in a happy AU.
– My angsty pairing for them
Lysandre/Augustine and Lysandre/Malva in canon.
– My favorite poly ship for them
Augustine/Lysandre/Malva or something who knows.
– My weirdest pairing for them

He hooked up with Bryony (RiskShipping) in the fankid AU if that counts.

Guzma
– My NOTP for them
None.  
– My BROTP for them
Guzma/Kukui or Guzma/Plumeria.
– My OTP for them
Guzma/Molayne. (SteelSkullShipping)  
– My second choice pairing for them
Guzma/Plumeria. (SkullShipping)
– My fluffy pairing for them
Guzma/Molayne.
– My angsty pairing for them
Guzma/Lusamine. (SyntheticRuinationShipping).
– My favorite poly ship for them
Guzma/Kukui/Burnet. (OsteologyShipping.)
– My weirdest pairing for them
Guzma/Molayne.

Lusamine
– My NOTP for them
I’ve seen enough porn of her with her kids I feel like I should mention it here.  
– My BROTP for them
Lusamine/Alola Mom
– My OTP for them
Lusamine/Mohn.(MeanBeanShipping)
– My second choice pairing for them
Lusamine/Healthy Life Choices
– My fluffy pairing for them
Lusamine/Mohn pre-bad things happening.
– My angsty pairing for them
Lusamine/Mohn with amnesiac Mohn or Lusamine/Guzma.
– My favorite poly ship for them
None.
– My weirdest pairing for them
None. I only ship her with her canon husband.